There are tons of top classic rock songs from these same artists that are almost always ignored when these lists are compiled. Fans of these artists are certainly familiar with these songs, but the uninitiated might overlook them. The next time you and your friends are creating your own top-song list, include these gems to flex your musical knowledge muscle:

Rolling Stones, “Start Me Up”: “Satisfaction” gets all the hype and has been named the number-one classic rock song by Rolling Stone magazine, but “Start Me Up” is a lot more fun and has had enjoyed longer staying power. Bursting onto the scene in 1981, this song quickly became a staple on classic rock radio, and the opening riff by Keith Richards is one of the most recognizable guitar parts in all of music.

Bob Dylan, “Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues”: Appearing on “Highway 61 Revisited,” this classic Dylan tune is often overshadowed by the album’s standout lead track, “Like a Rolling Stone.” However, an argument could be made that this song is actually superior, and is a better example of Dylan’s fusion of folk and rock. When Dylan sneers, “I don’t have the strength to get up and take another shot, and my best friend, my doctor, won’t even say what it is I’ve got,” the weight of his exhaustion is nearly tangible.

Led Zeppelin, “Since I’ve Been Loving You”: The band’s “Whole Lotta Love” had defined the new heavy blues sound by the time “Stairway to Heaven” arrived. However, in between the release of those two songs, the band recorded “Since I’ve Been Loving You,” which could be the blusiest song of their catalog. The first half of the song is rooted in Robert Johnson, but by the time the song ends, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page add their own signature screeches and solos.

Of course, all music lists are subject to the opinions of those creating them. And while a few songs are—and should be—always included among the top classic rock songs of all time, there are so many excellent songs to choose from, it seems narrow to think that there isn’t room for more. Be sure to check out these songs from three of the top artists in rock music, and then branch out even further to discover even more tunes worthy of inclusion in anyone’s rankings. And remember to have fun first; arguing over lists has its place, but don’t forget to just enjoy the music as well.

Learning jazz piano is not an easy task. To become a jazz musician you must be able to improvise. You must be able to play by ear, take off in a solo, and play with the group. It is a demanding art form to say the least.

Jazz piano is taught to all ages. It is taught at all levels of difficulty. You should have no trouble finding lessons for your level of skill. If you cannot find lessons locally, look online.

There is a ton of Jazz piano music lessons online. There are systematic tutorials, DVDs, CDs, eBooks, videos and more. Some free, the rest ranging from a couple of dollars to hundreds or more.

If you are brand new to Jazz piano there are many beginner lessons available online for free. These free online tutorials are a way for you to break the ice, get down the basics, and begin on your journey to becoming a jazz pianist. You can build confidence, practice the basics, and start the important core work of improvisation all from the comfort of home.

When you begin your training, you should focus on the technical side of jazz first. Apply this to common jazz songs. As you get better, stronger, and more confident with the technical side, move forward with your own improv. Bring out your creativity and explore your senses.

The most important piece of advice is to embrace your jazz piano lessons, never give up. Keep focused. Have fun with it. If you find yourself getting frustrated, if you find yourself not enjoying your lessons, step back. Figure out what is bothering you. Find a way to make it fun, create excitement, and take the work out of it.